Taylor Swift has shut down rumours suggesting she and Jack Antonoff are feuding.
In an interview for The New York Times published on Tuesday, the music superstar addressed speculation that she and the prolific producer have had a falling out.
“Jack Antonoff is a collaborator of mine and one of my best friends,” she told the outlet.
In addition, Taylor offered up some insight into her working relationship with Jack.
“We established this thing that we love to do, and we call it the rant bridge,” the 36-year-old explained, using her songs Cruel Summer and Out of the Woods as examples. “It’s basically like stream of consciousness, endless pouring-out of emotion, intrusive thoughts, blended with metaphor, with discussion, with shouting. You want this rant bridge to feel the most intense of what that feeling is that you’re trying to establish over the course of the song, and you want it to be kind of a crescendo.”
The Blank Space singer has worked with the Bleachers frontman on several albums, from her 2014 pop breakthrough 1989 to her 2024 offering, The Tortured Poets Department.
But after the Opalite hitmaker opted to work with producers Max Martin and Shellback on her 2025 album, The Life of a Showgirl, speculation about the status of the pair’s personal and professional relationship began to circulate online.
During an appearance on The Howard Stern Show on Tuesday, Jack insisted that he wasn’t bothered by Taylor working with other collaborators.
“Maybe it’s only because I write my own songs and sing them, but I understand that need to have different collaborators and jump around,” he explained. “I don’t think it’s normal to have the same collaborators over and over, and when I’ve had it with people, I think it’s a weird miracle.”
Elsewhere in her interview, Taylor shared her thoughts on fans who spend a lot of time decoding hidden messages in her lyrics and music videos.
“There’s corners of my fan base who are going to take things to a really extreme place. There’s nothing I can do about that. There’s people who are going to try and do… detective work,” she added. “When it gets a little bit weird to me when people act like it’s sort of a paternity test. Like, this songs about that person. Because I’m like, ‘That dude didn’t write the song, I did!’ But, that’s part of it. You have to hold tight to your perception of your art, and your relationship with it.”
